tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post2149780961956740868..comments2024-03-25T17:14:03.066-07:00Comments on The New Theological Movement: Why the Pope must be infallible, even if he's not impeccableFather Ryan Erlenbushhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-144925142229223652014-08-20T10:34:00.622-07:002014-08-20T10:34:00.622-07:00Joe,
There are times when the Pope speaks infalli...Joe, <br />There are times when the Pope speaks infallibly without having to employ an ex cathedra statement -- this is something which theologians are continuing to study. Thought in this area is still rather speculative, but there is a good example in the Ordinatio Sacerdotalis prohibition of women's ordination. <br /><br />As far as the human knowledge of Christ -- it is not as great the divine knowledge. By his human knowledge, he does not comprehend the infinite divine nature, nor does he know every possible creature that could have been made (though he does know a good number of those possibilities).<br />Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-88986299475160169712014-08-20T10:30:19.741-07:002014-08-20T10:30:19.741-07:00Not Peter,
I agree that it would be a good thing f...Not Peter,<br />I agree that it would be a good thing for the Pope to be clear in his teaching, but I am not convinced that this is guaranteed by infallibility. In fact, we have a good example of when the Pope was purposely NOT clear and intentionally spoke in a "confusing" manner (in so far as he was intentionally vague) - as when Pius XII taught that Mary died before the Assumption, but purposely DID NOT define this in his ex cathedra statement.<br /><br />The fact is that infallibility only means that the Pope won't solemnly define heresy, it does not necessarily extend to the form of expression.Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-1725245357972643832014-08-20T05:53:06.839-07:002014-08-20T05:53:06.839-07:00Father,
How does Papal infallibility apply to the ...Father,<br />How does Papal infallibility apply to the Pope speaking in an authoritative manner yet not ex cathedra as in encyclicals or something along those lines? <br /><br />On a side and not related note, when we say that Christ knew all created truths, does this mean He was ignorant of certain truths beyond the natural order or did Christ have the exact same knowledge in His humanity that He has in His Divinity?<br /><br />Thanks,<br />JoeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-58217081755936559372014-08-20T05:40:42.406-07:002014-08-20T05:40:42.406-07:00If the Pope were to teach infallibly in an extreme...If the Pope were to teach infallibly in an extremely confusing manner, the unity of faith of the Church would not be preserved, but harmed. So I don't think the Holy Spirit would permit such an expression of papal infallibility.<br /><br />What happens when the Pope does not meet the specific conditions for infallibility? Is his teaching subject to any degree or type of error whatsoever, or are there limits?<br /><br />Not PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com