tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post2970738577537690559..comments2024-03-05T11:44:26.154-08:00Comments on The New Theological Movement: Does Lent begin on Wednesday or Sunday?Father Ryan Erlenbushhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-23566395389504503372011-03-13T21:35:18.661-07:002011-03-13T21:35:18.661-07:00@Nick,
I love it! This is my favorite answer to th...@Nick,<br />I love it! This is my favorite answer to the question yet! :)Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-19757700323809477982011-03-13T21:34:45.828-07:002011-03-13T21:34:45.828-07:00@Fr. Dan G.,
Certainly you are correct (as I admit...@Fr. Dan G.,<br />Certainly you are correct (as I admitted also in the article) -- Ash Wednesday is in Quadragesima...<br />The point is that, though it is part of Lent, the Divine Office (in the Brevarium Romanum) is celebrated as though we were still in Septuagesima.<br /><br />This ambiguity in the usus antiquior is a witness to the long tradition regarding the origins of Lent and Ash Wednesday.<br /><br />In any case, thank you for the quotation from the Codex Rubricarum (as represented in your Ordo). <br />Peace! +Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-48131497497613368332011-03-13T16:49:27.743-07:002011-03-13T16:49:27.743-07:00From the Ordo:
"Lent runs from Ash Wednesday ...From the Ordo:<br />"Lent runs from Ash Wednesday until the Mass of the Lord's Supper exclusive on Holy Thursday," (pg. 65 in the Baltimore/Washington/AMS/Wilmingtonedition).Fr. Dan G.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-85253173048600405332011-03-13T16:02:38.206-07:002011-03-13T16:02:38.206-07:00Lent begins when the whining does. :PLent begins when the whining does. :PNicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-51941120663669573132011-03-13T14:59:43.415-07:002011-03-13T14:59:43.415-07:00we nonetheless 'fast' from the Gloria (at ...<i>we nonetheless 'fast' from the Gloria (at least in the ordinary form), the Alleluia, and from more festive music (perhaps only in certain parishes),</i><br /><br />There is no Gloria or Alleluia in the old Mass during Lent either (nor during Septuagesima which precedes it). The Alleluia and versicle are replaced by the Tract, and today's is, I think, one of the longest (if not the longest). On Easter and throughout the Easter season there will be a double Alleluia as the Gradual (replaced in the new rite by the responsorial Psalm) gives way.dcshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18424510747759223459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-78633854546608531912011-03-12T20:48:30.496-08:002011-03-12T20:48:30.496-08:00Sundays of Quadragesima seem to share in this '...Sundays of Quadragesima seem to share in this 'partly in and yet partly out' for while you say, "it was almost everywhere the case that the Fast was not extended to Sunday" we nonetheless 'fast' from the Gloria (at least in the ordinary form), the Alleluia, and from more festive music (perhaps only in certain parishes). Therefore there <br />seems to be something of "self-imposed privation" in our Sundays.Tribus Superbianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-79365869797756236372011-03-12T11:53:20.668-08:002011-03-12T11:53:20.668-08:00Interesting post & blog..Interesting post & blog..Jackie Parkes MJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16693505024823229152noreply@blogger.com