tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post3009935705007021657..comments2024-03-05T11:44:26.154-08:00Comments on The New Theological Movement: Someone should have told Mother Teresa...Father Ryan Erlenbushhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-44981947494519801442012-06-25T05:18:01.911-07:002012-06-25T05:18:01.911-07:00This is the most wonderful website! I discovered ...This is the most wonderful website! I discovered it by accident -- wish somehow you could get the parish priests to acknowledge it is here --especially for young people needing to ask questions-Can you include blessings to those who read it --not sure is you can bless by cyberspace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-32089442417604595992010-09-24T08:43:39.503-07:002010-09-24T08:43:39.503-07:00@Nick (Sep 24, 7:27am),
I'm not sure what you ...@Nick (Sep 24, 7:27am),<br />I'm not sure what you think I am saying. Let me be clear: I am not saying that the Vademecum does not speak about matters of faith and morals. I am not saying that the Vademecum does not quote magisterial documents. I am not saying that the Vademecum is in no way related to the Church.<br /><br />I am saying that this document is not a case of magisterial teaching. Yes, it includes magisterial teaching. So do many of the posts on this blog, so do many books of theology -- any good theologian will be referring to magisterial teaching and even quoting magisterial teaching -- this does not make the document to be part of the Church's Magisterial teaching. <br /><br />Nick, I am beginning to wonder if you have even read my original post. The whole point of the article is to stress that priests ought to be speaking about the Church's teaching on contraception more often. Many people are (mis)interpreting the Vademecum, thinking that it says that priests cannot/should not preach about contraception. I argue that such an interpretation is erroneous. Moreover, I give the example of Mother Teresa, who did speak about contraception.<br /><br />What exactly is your problem here? <br />What are you afraid of? If you think I am out to destroy the Church's teaching on contraception...do not worry! I am doing all I can to uphold that teaching and to encourage priests to speak about it more often!<br />I think we are on the same team. But if you continue to attack, I will fight back and defend my post with great zeal.<br />Peace to you.Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-15197008504910325812010-09-23T22:54:36.926-07:002010-09-23T22:54:36.926-07:00EXAMPLE OF MAGISTERIAL TEACHING:
Vademecum
Contra...EXAMPLE OF MAGISTERIAL TEACHING:<br /><br /><b>Vademecum</b><br />Contraception, directly opposed to the transmission of life, betrays and falsifies the self-sacrificing love proper to marriage, "altering its value of total self-giving"22 and contradicting God's design of love, in which it has been granted to married couples to participate.<br /><br />4. The Church has always taught the intrinsic evil of contraception, that is, of every marital act intentionally rendered unfruitful. This teaching is to be held as definitive and irreformable. Contraception is gravely opposed to marital chastity; it is contrary to the good of the transmission of life (the procreative aspect of matrimony), and to the reciprocal self-giving of the spouses (the unitive aspect of matrimony); it harms true love and denies the sovereign role of God in the transmission of human life.33<br /><br /><b>Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church</b><br /><br />233. Concerning the “methods” for practising responsible procreation, the first to be rejected as morally illicit are sterilization and abortion[521]. The latter in particular is a horrendous crime and constitutes a particularly serious moral disorder[522]; far from being a right, it is a sad phenomenon that contributes seriously to spreading a mentality against life, representing a dangerous threat to a just and democratic social coexistence[523].<br /><br />Also to be rejected is recourse to contraceptive methods in their different forms[524]: this rejection is based on a correct and integral understanding of the person and human sexuality [525] and represents a moral call to defend the true development of peoples[526]. On the other hand, the same reasons of an anthropological order justify recourse to periodic abstinence during times of the woman's fertility[527]. Rejecting contraception and using natural methods for regulating births means choosing to base interpersonal relations between the spouses on mutual respect and total acceptance, with positive consequences also for bringing about a more human order in society.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-39916966233649109912010-09-23T22:27:58.184-07:002010-09-23T22:27:58.184-07:00@Reginaldus
The document includes Magisterial Te...@Reginaldus <br /><br />The document includes Magisterial Teaching, such as on contraception.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-13771123872532103562010-09-23T16:45:14.058-07:002010-09-23T16:45:14.058-07:00@Veneremurcernui, Dr. Victoria A. Howard, and Anon...@Veneremurcernui, Dr. Victoria A. Howard, and Anonymous (Sept 22, 5:05pm),<br />I am very happy to hear that the post has given you some encouragement.<br />Let us all continue to pray that our priests will be true shepherds of Christ's flock!Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-4229172639534152212010-09-23T16:43:02.692-07:002010-09-23T16:43:02.692-07:00@Nick,
You ask that I prove that the document (the...@Nick,<br />You ask that I prove that the document (the Vademecum) is not part of Magisterial teaching...<br />1) It was released from a Pontifical Council...not a Congregation, not the Pope Himself, just a Council. The Council for Family Life has never been part of the Magisterium.<br />2) The document does not claim to be part of Magisterial teaching.<br />3) No one, not the Pope, not the officials at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, not any theologian... no one of any serious theological background has ever claimed that this document is Magisterial Teaching.Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-56374138712164320092010-09-23T16:33:46.729-07:002010-09-23T16:33:46.729-07:00@Anonymous (Sept 21, 4:31am),
As another has alrea...@Anonymous (Sept 21, 4:31am),<br />As another has already corrected from whom Mother Teresa took her name (from Therese of the Child Jesus), I will address your comment about B16.<br /><br />Are you aware of the fact that our Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI signed "B16" in a text message he sent to thousands of youths at the Sydney World Youth Day? Do you think that he was irreverent in this action?Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-21555911083745028152010-09-22T15:51:45.576-07:002010-09-22T15:51:45.576-07:00I've only ever heard one priest talk about it ...I've only ever heard one priest talk about it in person during a sermon/homily. I have heard the doctrine occasionally discussed in EWTN Mass celebrations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-44249569325439631232010-09-22T08:05:59.386-07:002010-09-22T08:05:59.386-07:00Wonderful points made here. If only priests would...Wonderful points made here. If only priests would speak up courageously from the pulpit about what the Church teaches in this area. In my whole life as a Catholic, I've only ever heard 2 priests bring it up.<br /><br />To Anonymous, this isn't that important, but Mother Teresa actually took her name from "the little one," St. Therese of Lisieux who in turn to her name from "the big Teresa," St. Teresa of Avila. Both Saint Therese and St. Teresa are now doctors of the Church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-26632569377948873062010-09-21T16:11:01.959-07:002010-09-21T16:11:01.959-07:00We must keep a strict standard for ourselves and l...We must keep a strict standard for ourselves and learn to control our urges. Control over oneself always leads to wisdom and comes from wisdom. Blessed Teresa of Calcutta was right about contraception. We cannot afford to let up in the demands upon ourselves that come from our faith. Yes, it is difficult, but God did not promise us a rose garden but rather a steep road to hoe. Without a challenge we arrive at mediocrity. We must be willing to deny ourselves and take up our crosses and follow our leader. If the world hates us for it, remember that first they hated our Leader, Jesus Christ.Doctor Victoria A. Howard, Anchoresshttp://mysite.verizon.net/vzezunbp/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-34594793858607214632010-09-21T14:21:12.315-07:002010-09-21T14:21:12.315-07:00I've blogged on this subject before, both Bles...I've blogged on this subject before, both Blessed Mother Teresa's words and the article by Sandro Magister in La Chiesa. I think Mr. Magister was trying to state what the practical reality is: most priests either won't counsel not to use contraception for fear of offending, ignore the subject trusting that "his" people are so well formed (by magic?) that they would never deviate from Church doctrine, or don't agree or support the Church's doctrine in the first place. There is a great moral silence on the issue of contraception in the Church, it is one of the least talked about moral doctrines in the Church, at least in the US, because so few Catholics observe this doctrine and the priests are....afraid of losing members/donations, making people mad, getting in trouble with the bishop, lack moral courage? My wife has been told by a priest that she SHOULD use contraception because we "have too many kids" (6). This and divorce and the whole sexularization/sterilization of our culture and the Church are the two gravest scandals of our times, not only because they occur in such vast numbers, but also because, unlike abortion, the Church is largely silent on them at every level below that of the Vatican. Yes, there are exceptions, but practically speaking your average Sunday Mass attending Catholic is never forced to examine his/her comfortable presumptions about contraception use, something 97% of Catholics depart from the Church on. And ending sentences with prepositions is something up with which I will not put!<br /><br />Good blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-85329679846127165082010-09-20T19:31:29.293-07:002010-09-20T19:31:29.293-07:00I often feel it misleading to see the heading &quo...I often feel it misleading to see the heading "Mother Teresa,,," since she took her name from a Dr of the Church, Teresa of Jesus, who is has been called" Mother Teresa" since the 16th C. It seems more sense to refer to our present Bl. as Mother Teresa of Calcutta. In this age of shortened language, such a B16 for Pope Benedict XVI, I fill such tag lines often mislead, or are irreverent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-12767720423081356612010-09-20T16:56:57.927-07:002010-09-20T16:56:57.927-07:00"Let us be clear from the start, THIS DOCUMEN..."Let us be clear from the start, THIS DOCUMENT IS NOT MAGISTERIAL TEACHING!"<br /><br />Prove it.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-37210389852537420802010-09-20T12:27:48.084-07:002010-09-20T12:27:48.084-07:00God Bless Mother Teresa and her Sisters of Charity...God Bless Mother Teresa and her Sisters of Charity order. Today they operate in over 100 countries unselfishly caring for disabled and sick orphans.<br />http://www.vanessakachadurianarmeniansoc.blogspot.com<br /><br />Vanessa KachadurianVanessa Kachadurianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16456787675990940096noreply@blogger.com