tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post3758807851424631213..comments2024-03-05T11:44:26.154-08:00Comments on The New Theological Movement: The Shroud of Turin, represented at every MassFather Ryan Erlenbushhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-37693935062672241792012-04-16T11:02:32.273-07:002012-04-16T11:02:32.273-07:00I hadn't read the study of The Shroud in years...I hadn't read the study of The Shroud in years and I was just going on memery but for those interested, the link still exists online that takes you to their study of the fraud<br /><br />http://www.crc-internet.org/shroud.htmMick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-13415537596756332332012-04-16T10:56:28.638-07:002012-04-16T10:56:28.638-07:00The Shroud of Turin is the burial cloth of Jesus a...The Shroud of Turin is the burial cloth of Jesus and grateful thanks ought be extended to The Catholic Counter Reformation of the XXTH Century which caught out, unmasked, and revealed, to men of good will, that Dr Michael Tite substituted clippings from the Cope of Saint Louis for those samples cut from the cloth.<br /><br />The Abbe de Nantes team proved that the atomic weight of the samples taken from The Shroud weighed a different amount than did the samples submitted to the labs for testing - the samples from the Cope of Saint Louis which Dr Tite took possession of before testing the Shroud.<br /><br />That is, the "science" of Dr Michael Tite was a flat out fraud but Holy Mother Church has surrendered to its worldly power and it refused to defend this most magnificent Holy Relic.<br /><br />Having successfully sued for divorce from Sacred Theology, Science has been whoring around with materialists and producing bastard children that modern man worships.<br /><br />The Shroud is real and the image was produced when Jesus resurrected at midnight in a sudden spectacular burst of light that caused Hell to scream with rage.Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-65242152286717300922012-04-15T16:03:52.969-07:002012-04-15T16:03:52.969-07:00Frank,
A possible way to reconcile the Shroud with...Frank,<br />A possible way to reconcile the Shroud with the the Sudarium is that the image on the shroud is actually a physical record of the great energy produced by the the Resurrection. If this is the case, I believe our Lord would want us to see the image of the whole body being resurrected. This might explain why only blood remains on the Sudarium.<br /><br />cjpadmiral dewy wilkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17131084274764880546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-51145833031584454322012-04-12T01:21:37.832-07:002012-04-12T01:21:37.832-07:00@ Frank Gibbons:
The Sudarium of Oviedo was, as f...@ Frank Gibbons:<br /><br />The Sudarium of Oviedo was, as far as science can tell, on His head BEFORE His body was placed in the Shroud, about one hour after death, and while He was still in vertical position - so that it probably covered His face during deposition. <br />It was taken off before the body was shrouded, and it is not one of the Holy Faces, as there never was any image on it, although the stains seem to correspond to those on the Turin Shroud.Davor Aslanovskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05284148493791277250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-49300758353206003632012-04-11T11:59:40.579-07:002012-04-11T11:59:40.579-07:00Hi Father.
Thank you so much for this article. ...Hi Father. <br /><br />Thank you so much for this article. Fascinating. Two quick questions if you have a moment. I notice that after the consecration, my priest rubs his fingers over the chalice so that any particles from the host fall into the precious blood. Does this seem like an acceptable practice?<br /><br />Also, I have often wondered about the best way to distribute many hosts to all those who are distributing Holy Communion. I have seen extraordinary ministers of Holy communion simply grab a handful of hosts, which is clearly irreverent (at best). My priest lowers the angle of the "plate" (I'm sorry, I don't know what it is called) and uses his thumb to tap the "plate" so that gravity allows the hosts to fall from one "plate" into another. Would this be proper as well? Thank you Father, God love you.Bobby Bambinohttp://www.jillstanek.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-9892809269240243642012-04-11T06:34:33.988-07:002012-04-11T06:34:33.988-07:00Thanks to all of you! The information on the corp...Thanks to all of you! The information on the corporal was informative even though I have had the blessing of being Catholic since I was a week of age. I also think Fr. Erlenbush's closing "Peace! +" is beautiful and plan to adopt it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-39834322060426872792012-04-10T17:10:20.683-07:002012-04-10T17:10:20.683-07:00I thought the Corporal was the nine-folded head-cl...I thought the Corporal was the nine-folded head-cloth left quite deliberately in the corner of the tomb, and the Altar-linen was intended to be the Shroud.<br /><br />I am also under the impression that the maniple is the same arm-cloth hidden in the sleeve by say Coptic priests and them placed over the Body and Blood, and pulled off, is representative of the Sudarium or the Manoppello... not too sure which is which.<br /><br />(or something... I dunno just made this observations myself over the years.)James Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03601404337397444540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-52689336581743571732012-04-10T16:25:48.234-07:002012-04-10T16:25:48.234-07:00I do father, but reminders always come in handy, t...I do father, but reminders always come in handy, thanks!<br /><br />Joacojoaconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-28840080118512327452012-04-10T10:33:02.479-07:002012-04-10T10:33:02.479-07:00@Joaco,
I don't think that there is anything w...@Joaco,<br />I don't think that there is anything wrong with what you are doing ... it is not in the context of the Mass ... so, if the priest has asked you to help with benediction, you can probably feel pretty safe in assisting.<br />Just be sure to remember that what you touch is sacred ... and I am sure that you do so with great reverence.<br /><br />Peace! +Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-23136367048522634232012-04-10T10:31:03.886-07:002012-04-10T10:31:03.886-07:00@Frank and Thomas,
Yes, there is something to thin...@Frank and Thomas,<br />Yes, there is something to think about there.<br />Thomas, you are correct to point out the Sudarium of Oviedo -- this was the head covering.<br />Then there is also the Veil of Veronica (which is kept at the Vatican).<br /><br />Together with the Shroud, these are the three most popular images of the Holy Face.<br /><br />I see no reason why the Shroud couldn't have covered the Face of Jesus ... especially if the sudarium was placed on the Face first and then the shroud wrapped around that. +Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-82283444864360699102012-04-10T10:19:03.604-07:002012-04-10T10:19:03.604-07:00Frank,
I am not sure what the answer may be to you...Frank,<br />I am not sure what the answer may be to your question but interestingly enough there is another cloth which matches the shroud in many ways known as the Sudarium of Oviedo. It actually has the same blood type as well and they say that it covered the head of Christ at one point. <br />I don't know a lot about it but that might be a possible answer<br /><br />ThomasThomas22noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-75881192301381902232012-04-10T09:29:05.092-07:002012-04-10T09:29:05.092-07:00The Shroud of Turin is a single garment that ran t...The Shroud of Turin is a single garment that ran the length of the entire body. If there was a separate cloth wrapped around our Lord's head, wouldn't the image of His face be on that rather than on the body-long garment? I have always found it difficult to reconcile John 20:6-7 with the claims of the Shroud of Turin. <br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Frank GibbonsFrank Gibbonsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-44174323010573001842012-04-10T04:59:07.099-07:002012-04-10T04:59:07.099-07:00Dear Father,
Every month I attend a recollection ...Dear Father,<br /><br />Every month I attend a recollection evening during which the Priest gives a meditation, then there's a talk, examination of conscience and finally Benediction (with the Blessed Sacrament). <br /><br />Sometimes I am asked to help with the Benediction. When we finish, I usually help father with some things, among them re-folding the corporal and putting it in its cloth and in the drawer. <br /><br />After reading this post, and specifically : "The corporal is usually unfolded upon the altar either by an altar server or by the deacon", I'm thinking whether I'm doing something that's not my job? Am I?<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />JoacoJoaconoreply@blogger.com