tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post6212726820700106141..comments2024-03-05T11:44:26.154-08:00Comments on The New Theological Movement: He that came by water and blood - The miraculous delugeFather Ryan Erlenbushhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-76510358844655283402017-10-15T13:32:28.656-07:002017-10-15T13:32:28.656-07:00Thank You for helping me understand the piercing o...Thank You for helping me understand the piercing of Our Lord's side in such a beautiful way!OmaWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133958416137312719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-27512187740556923032013-07-26T09:38:57.065-07:002013-07-26T09:38:57.065-07:00A new perspective on the study of 1 John 5:1-12 (k...A new perspective on the study of 1 John 5:1-12 (key verse 6) with Hebrews (key chapters 7-9)<br /><br />When John writes that Jesus Christ “came by water and blood” (1 John 5:6a), he is using “water and blood” as a synonym for covenant. As explained in Hebrews 9:16-22, it takes blood and water, together, to bring a will/covenant into effect – the blood represents the death of something or someone. If the covenant cannot come into effect nor has any value without blood and water then, “water and blood” is synonymous with covenant. An inspired John had just found a unique way of saying, “covenant”! Thus, what John means is, this one, Jesus Christ, came by covenant—the new covenant God had made with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, to forgive their wickedness and remember their sins no more (Heb. 8:8-12).<br /><br />Not only did Jesus come by covenant, He was the sacrificial lamb of the very covenant that had brought Him to earth—to take away sin from both Jew and Gentile. John declared, when he saw Jesus, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!" (John 1:29a: NIV). Jesus is also the mediator or High Priest who ratified the covenant (Heb. 7-8). He brought it into effect through His own body as blood and water flowed from His pierced side on Calvary’s cross (John 19:34).<br /><br />God, who is faithful, has not left anything undone; He has kept His promise to forgive wickedness and sins. He gave us a Savior and High Priest, Jesus, His Son, our eternal intercessor (Heb. 7:24-25). Messiah!!<br /><br /><br />www.logos.com/users/joanspence<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-15504012445832377182013-05-09T13:29:39.273-07:002013-05-09T13:29:39.273-07:00Great post; very informative!Great post; very informative!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07940745178193985942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-70202499888822028452013-04-08T15:49:41.194-07:002013-04-08T15:49:41.194-07:00Dear Father, What I have always known prior to rea...Dear Father, What I have always known prior to reading your comment is that the flow of blood and water signify Christ's gift of the Sacraments in general to the Church. But I think your beautiful explanation which links this act to the Sacraments of Baptism, Eucharist and Penance specifically is more to the point and worth taking to heart. Fr. Linus Patemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-85561564815996596622013-04-08T15:10:51.416-07:002013-04-08T15:10:51.416-07:00Fr. Ryan, I have been thinking about you and prayi...Fr. Ryan, I have been thinking about you and praying for you. Dropped by last week and saw you hadn't posted in some time. Glad to see the two recent posts.<br /><br />Hope you are well, and please know that you have a friend in a nearby state who daily commends you to Our Lady~<br /><br />Pray for me too, please.<br /><br />VeronicaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-13258947379813951672013-04-07T14:21:26.153-07:002013-04-07T14:21:26.153-07:00It also refers to the threefold baptism (water, bl...It also refers to the threefold baptism (water, blood and spirit) according to St. Catherine.Nishanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933549995465208928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-57858847015134563262013-04-06T20:55:19.225-07:002013-04-06T20:55:19.225-07:00The Dialogue dictated by St. Catherine of Siena ap...The Dialogue dictated by St. Catherine of Siena approximately in 1377-1378 emphasizes Christ showed by this flowing of blood and water that He loved us more than it was possible to show with finite pain (<a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/catherine/dialog.iv.iv.v.html" rel="nofollow">Dialog of Catherine of Siena, A Treatise of Prayer, Chapter V)</a>:<br /><br />My love was infinite, how much more love I had, I wished you to see the secret of the Heart, showing it to you open, so that you might see how much more I loved than I could show you by finite pain. Gaudiumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-88631475557343018122013-04-06T14:17:29.777-07:002013-04-06T14:17:29.777-07:00@Not Spartacus,
Yes, I agree that his dramatic des...@Not Spartacus,<br />Yes, I agree that his dramatic description of the Passion is very helpful in many respects! +<br /><br />@Fr Vasek,<br />Peace and good to you! I will look for more ... try the commentaries of Fr Cornelius a' Lapide -- his Gospel commentaries are available in print from Loreto Press (loretopubs.org), and several of his New Testament commentaries are online here - http://www.catholicapologetics.info/scripture/newtestament/Lapide.htm<br /><br />Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-68995046065393402812013-04-06T13:14:59.638-07:002013-04-06T13:14:59.638-07:00Dear Father. Oh, I agree there is trouble with wha...Dear Father. Oh, I agree there is trouble with what he wrote to the extent that he wrote it as a physician but because he is a Doctor he treats of the crime of Deicide in a dramatic way that can help the penitent (and who isn't one on Good Friday?) try and imagine the horrific pain his sins caused his Lord and Saviour to undergo; that is, his examination of the wounds and pains of Jesus helps me to weep and wail over my sins - and that is the very least I ought do on Good Friday.<br /><br />And, this is a shorter version of, <i>A Doctor at Calvary</i> which is quite a good book.Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-44932257476076261472013-04-06T11:13:17.870-07:002013-04-06T11:13:17.870-07:00Dear Father,
Peace be to you and grace! Father Va...Dear Father,<br />Peace be to you and grace! Father Vasek here from Crookston. I enjoy this post very much. I was on the site a few days ago and was wondering when the next article would come along.<br /><br />I am mostly interested in the identification of the Spirit, and the connection of that passage with Penance. I've wondered the meaning of St. John regarding the third (the Spirit) for some time. You've connected it with Easter Sunday night in the upper room. I'd like to see more regarding that from Tradition or anywhere you've seen notes on "the Spirit" in this regard.<br /><br />I'm particularly interested, to follow that separate topic, Easter Sunday night, a little more. I've read the Catena Aurea and the Sunday Sermons of the Great Fathers this week in preparation for Holy Mass and I'm very interested to study more about that Easter eve.<br /><br />Thanks for this post and I'm interested in links or thoughts regarding Penance and the Spirit.<br /><br />I've typically said: Blood: Eucharist<br />Water: Baptism<br />Spirit: Holy Spirit (without reference to any particular moment, since I haven't become settled on that.)<br /><br />Grace and Peace,<br />Father Craig VasekAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-52103480429264425242013-04-06T10:57:03.450-07:002013-04-06T10:57:03.450-07:00I am not Spartacus,
That doctor says, "John ...I am not Spartacus,<br /><br />That doctor says, "John truly saw it, and I also, and we would not lie: a broad stream of dark liquid blood, which gushed out on to the soldier, and slowly flowed in dribbles over the chest, coagulating in successive layers. But at the same time, and specially noticeable at the edges, there flows a clear liquid like water. Let us see, the wound is below and to the outside of the nipple (the fifth space), and the blow from below. It is therefore the blood from the right auricle, and the water issued from the pericardium."<br /><br />Now, the particular line that troubles me is "a clear liquid LIKE water" ... but John says it was water, not a liquid like water.<br /><br />Further, although I know that the doctor means well, I think that he confuses the issue by rationalizing it...<br />Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-78091067555049931202013-04-06T06:10:02.289-07:002013-04-06T06:10:02.289-07:00Dear Father. Excellent.
Have you ever read this ...Dear Father. Excellent. <br /><br />Have you ever read this meditation by a French Doctor?<br /><br />http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/barbet.htmlMick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.com