tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post8422187011333811250..comments2024-03-05T11:44:26.154-08:00Comments on The New Theological Movement: The necessity of Viaticum and the duty of priestsFather Ryan Erlenbushhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-31184710840814809262017-08-06T09:41:57.985-07:002017-08-06T09:41:57.985-07:00Can Catholics in danger of death receive Extreme U...Can Catholics in danger of death receive Extreme Unction/ Viaticum from an excommunicated rite such as the Eastern Orthodox if no Catholic priest is available? If so, where does the church teach this, where did it originate? Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-68111376139316172952012-06-25T14:31:43.620-07:002012-06-25T14:31:43.620-07:00MCD,
1) It is always good to pray the Divine Mercy...MCD,<br />1) It is always good to pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet when we know someone is near death ... our Savior himself instructed St Faustina to do this.<br /><br />2) If you have a good reason to think someone is Catholic, and there is an emergency, it is good to call a priest ... then let him decide what is the best course of action.<br /><br />3) Again, the Divine Mercy Chaplet. In some circumstances, a person can make a "confession" to another layman ... this is not a sacrament, nor is there absolution ... but it is simply an act of true sorrow for sin ... St. Thomas talks about this ... but I would say that this would be quite out of the ordinary today ... however, if I were dying and there was no priest, I would want to make a "confession" of sorts ... and ask the person to pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet with/for me afterwards.<br />Of course, the person would be morally bound to keep whatever was said in that "confession" totally secret. <br /><br />4) I think that priests are pretty good about giving the indulgence. Certainly, it is something that every priest OUGHT to know about and do!<br /><br />5) Yes, I think such a person would go to purgatory ... not so much for temporal punishment, but rather for purification ... because we must be perfect to go to heaven ... HOWEVER, if a little baby dies right after baptism (or any time after baptism and before the age of reason) he goes directly to heaven.<br /><br />Hope that helps! +<br /><br />4)Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-18351858405110195102012-06-21T03:40:40.956-07:002012-06-21T03:40:40.956-07:00This truly makes me say: Thank You, my Lord. You ...This truly makes me say: Thank You, my Lord. You gave me the presence of mind and supplied your Ordained Priest to administer these two Sacraments of my dying husband 18 years ago. And thank You, Lord, that You so mercifully blessed us that it is this Viaticum that was the "last meal" we shared with my husband. May his soul rest in peace. Amen.<br /><br />Though I was not able to do the same for my beloved son, three years later, I ensured he received the Sacrament of the Anointing before his death. May You, our Merciful God take Jame's Soul Onto Yourself. May I, one day meet them both in your Heavenly abode.Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00185374414579400636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-41795858541910381112012-06-20T14:43:42.680-07:002012-06-20T14:43:42.680-07:00Father, I have a few questions about this post and...Father, I have a few questions about this post and related points:<br />1. Recently, someone I knew died suddenly and they didnt even make it to the hospital. I was wondering if I were around at the time, what should I have done for the man spiritually?<br />2. What should one do if someone around them is seriously hurt (e.g. car accident) but you don't know if they are Catholic? What should you do if you know they are Catholic but you don't know if the priest should go to the hospital or the seen of the accident?<br />3. If someone is dying and might die without the priest making it, what would you suggest doing? just pray? What if the person in danger of death is me?<br />4. Do most Catholics who receive the last rites receive the Indulgence as well? It seems like this Indulgence is so easily gained yet so rarely discussed<br />and lastly:<br />5. If someone is baptized and dies soon after yet without being perfectly holy, does he undergo purgatory even with his temporal punishment gone?<br /><br />I know these are a lot, but any answer is greatly appreciated, thank you for your time and for the blog!<br />MattMCDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-89483924961950994272012-06-19T20:33:25.846-07:002012-06-19T20:33:25.846-07:00@Anonymous,
1st, Please use a pseudonym (as per th...@Anonymous,<br />1st, Please use a pseudonym (as per the request above the comment box).<br /><br />2nd, "Wherefore he that thinketh himself to stand, let him take heed lest he fall." (1 Cor 10:12)<br /><br />3rd, "If any one saith, that the justified, either is able to persevere, without the special help of God, in the justice received; or that, with that help, he is not able; let him be anathema." (Trent, Session 6, Can 22)<br />[in other words, it is a heresy to say that one can persevere at the moment of death without a special grace from God]<br /><br />4th, "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (Hebrews 10:31)<br /><br />5th, The devil often attacks the soul most vehemently in the last moments.<br /><br />6th, The moment before death is the most important moment of our whole life ... it is then, if we persevere in grace, that we persevere unto eternal life.<br /><br />Hope that helps. +Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-46029783307591686092012-06-19T18:21:43.548-07:002012-06-19T18:21:43.548-07:00What happens at the moment of death that puts us i...What happens at the moment of death that puts us in so much danger if we have led a faithful life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-31700050838601296392012-06-19T13:07:08.080-07:002012-06-19T13:07:08.080-07:00@Veronica,
This seems to me to be a difficult poin...@Veronica,<br />This seems to me to be a difficult point ... while, if we die with a plenary indulgence, it is clear that we will not suffer any temporal punishment in purgatory -- I am not sure that this means we skip purgatory all together.<br /><br />St. John of the Cross, in "Dark Night of the Soul", sees purgatory primarily as a place of purification to bring the soul to perfection (and not merely as a place of punishment to satisfy justice) ... hence, I would be inclined to think that a soul might still go to purgatory under this aspect of purification.<br />This I know: No soul which is less than perfect can attain to heaven.<br /><br />Well, that is my initial thought, at least! Peace! +Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-89281503306303459592012-06-19T13:04:19.122-07:002012-06-19T13:04:19.122-07:00@Richard,
The reason Viaticum is so important is t...@Richard,<br />The reason Viaticum is so important is that, even when in the state of grace, a man still needs actual graces to do good and to remain in grace.<br />In other words, even when in grace, we cannot do good without the continual assistance of grace.<br /><br />How much more do we need grace, then, as we come to the moment of death!<br />And this teaching, that the Eucharist is this means of grace for the moment of death, is taught by Christ in John 6.<br /><br />Great question! I hope that it is a bit clearer now! +Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-26796793617280988632012-06-19T10:51:38.356-07:002012-06-19T10:51:38.356-07:00"When a person is on the point of death, the ..."When a person is on the point of death, the Church commands priests to offer a plenary indulgence through the Apostolic Pardon. This blessing is not to be given until death is imminent (hence, it ought to be connected more with Viaticum than with Anointing), and the indulgence does not take place immediately upon the act of blessing but rather takes effect upon the very moment of death itself – thus, the temporal punishment for every sin up to the very last moment of life is remitted."<br /><br />Father, does this mean that you can go straight to Heaven when you die?<br /><br />VeronicaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-18360851426314309802012-06-19T10:50:46.403-07:002012-06-19T10:50:46.403-07:00I was wondering exactly why the viaticum is so imp...I was wondering exactly why the viaticum is so important for a person dying in the state of grace?Richard Prinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-39580973658669977412012-06-19T07:22:21.844-07:002012-06-19T07:22:21.844-07:00Very good post, thanks a lot!Very good post, thanks a lot!Konstantinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13701303189143549671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-43697776627012408572012-06-19T04:49:22.411-07:002012-06-19T04:49:22.411-07:00Wonderful post - invaluable information for all, l...Wonderful post - invaluable information for all, lay & ordained.Paddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10112119118958158131noreply@blogger.com