tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post8815172928493040400..comments2024-03-05T11:44:26.154-08:00Comments on The New Theological Movement: What St. Paul saw on the road to Damascus, and what mystics seeFather Ryan Erlenbushhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-34571949503371798422013-02-12T12:27:39.672-08:002013-02-12T12:27:39.672-08:00 Dear Fr. Did Our Lady appear nearly twenty times ... Dear Fr. Did Our Lady appear nearly twenty times physically - eighteen, I think it was - in the Grotto of Massabielle?Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-3378797542136226552013-02-11T08:42:43.777-08:002013-02-11T08:42:43.777-08:00Dear Mr. Russell: One is not constrained to adopt...Dear Mr. Russell: One is not constrained to adopt a particular idea if the fullness of truth is apprehended:<br /><br />John 20:17 <br /><br />Jesus saith to her:<b> Do not touch me,</b> for I am not yet ascended to my Father. But go to my brethren, and say to them: I ascend to my Father and to your Father, to my God and your God.Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-44801757622835179972013-02-10T10:21:34.584-08:002013-02-10T10:21:34.584-08:00It seems to me to reconcile why Peter and Paul has...It seems to me to reconcile why Peter and Paul has the two Apostles together in the Confiteor. James Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03601404337397444540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-49005086676916601492013-02-09T14:39:25.679-08:002013-02-09T14:39:25.679-08:00From your comment i concur that Christ revealed Hi...From your comment i concur that Christ revealed His glory more perfectly in Transfiguration than in Resurrection.<br /><br />Are you thinking of the very moment of Resurrection or events postceding it? Iconography allways shows the Resurrection as a glorious event. Did Our Lord truly "let out" some of His glory at the very moment of Resurrection and then "toned it down" a bit for the upcoming events and encounters? Is there a distinction in "looks" of Christ's Body in the moment of Resurrection and after the moment?Marko Ivančičevićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04579400863718513875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-29267009813768625142013-02-09T13:56:03.320-08:002013-02-09T13:56:03.320-08:00@Anon, please have the courtesy to use a pseudonym...@Anon, please have the courtesy to use a pseudonym.<br /><br />In any case, do you forget that not all saw and recognized Jesus in the resurrection appearances? Did he not vanish from sight? Did he not change his form? <br />Is it that hard to imagine that such would have happened in this case?Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-55426060986119967362013-02-09T11:02:43.353-08:002013-02-09T11:02:43.353-08:00Feb. 9th...But if Jesus appeared physically, in Hi...Feb. 9th...But if Jesus appeared physically, in His humanity as when He walked the earth, why didn't those with St. Paul see Him? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-14048610616699002242013-02-09T09:50:58.547-08:002013-02-09T09:50:58.547-08:00@Mark,
Interesting idea ... however, I think it p...@Mark,<br />Interesting idea ... however, I think it pretty unlikely that Saul would have ever seen Jesus.<br />In fact, he was not really the leader in the execution of Stephen but was simply a young man who was standing by and was obviously in accord with the murder -- clearly he was known as a persecutor of Christians, but it is unlikely that he had any direct involvement in the Crucifixion of Jesus.<br /><br />I find it quite notable that St. Paul never states that he saw Jesus (excepting in this apparition).<br /><br />Peace! +Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-1869032140023304752013-02-09T09:48:36.693-08:002013-02-09T09:48:36.693-08:00@Marko,
Not so much like at the Transfiguration .....@Marko,<br />Not so much like at the Transfiguration ... rather, like at the Resurrection.Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-12725785213822127402013-02-09T09:47:56.975-08:002013-02-09T09:47:56.975-08:00@Bill,
While it is true that the word "appear...@Bill,<br />While it is true that the word "appeared" in and of itself would not lead us to necessarily conclude that Saul saw the physical body of Jesus ... the context makes this more than abundantly clear -- for St Paul sets his own encounter with the risen Christ on exactly the same level as that of Peter and the rest.<br /><br />Thus, it could not merely have been a light ... no, it was a true apparition of the risen body of Jesus.<br /><br />Further, the hymn of St. Thomas is speaking about Jesus' presence in the Eucharist -- a sacramental presence ... here we are speaking of the post-Resurrection apparitions.<br />While it is the same body and the same person present, he is present according to different modes -- hence your comparison fails.<br /><br />In any case ... the Fathers and Doctors of the Church say that Jesus appeared in his proper physical body to St. Paul ... the Catechism teaches the same.Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-40642182090953641182013-02-09T09:41:14.446-08:002013-02-09T09:41:14.446-08:00Fr. Ryan,
Thank you for this posting. Have you ev...Fr. Ryan,<br /><br />Thank you for this posting. Have you ever considered or heard discussed the idea that Saul of Tarsus could have seen Jesus in or around the Temple before the crucifixion? Saul was a student of Gamaliel who was a leading scholar in Jerusalem at the time of Jesus. Also since he was seemingly in charge of the execution of Stephen less than two years after the crucifixion of Christ, he probably had been on the scene for quite a while before that. I realize this is total speculation, but intriguing all the same. What if Saul was involved in some of the debates the pharisees had with and about Jesus?<br /><br />blessings on your ministry,<br /><br />- MarkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-46640996819910771082013-02-09T05:01:02.318-08:002013-02-09T05:01:02.318-08:00It is a very inspiring story of St. Paul. I hope m...It is a very inspiring story of St. Paul. I hope more people will be inspired just as it inspired me.Spiritual Imagehttp://spiritualimages.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-28617078792295751372013-02-09T00:44:07.738-08:002013-02-09T00:44:07.738-08:00Oh how the infinite wisdom of God is apparent in t...Oh how the infinite wisdom of God is apparent in the conversion of St. Paul. To take a staunch persecutor of the Church and lead him to become an Apostle who suffered greatly for the Faith. <br /><br />Sancte Paule, ora pro nobisClinton R.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-33429581615081959812013-02-08T21:37:33.543-08:002013-02-08T21:37:33.543-08:00The term "appeared" in Corinthians is am...The term "appeared" in Corinthians is ambiguous: the detailed account in Acts speaks only of a light and a voice, and does not mention a physical form. Aquinas thus says in the Adoro Te: Visus, tactus, gustus in te fallitur,: Sed auditu solo tuto creditur. (to paraphrase, seeing not believing - only hearing is to be believed.) While Mary Magdalen did see Christ's physical body, only the voice persuaded her. - This is why the great artistic depictions do not show Christ' body but only the blinding light. bill russellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-65463353215647031182013-02-08T14:04:00.774-08:002013-02-08T14:04:00.774-08:00Such a high privilege! It also helps to understand...Such a high privilege! It also helps to understand the reason he had to carry so heavy Crosses during his life: To whom much is given, much is required.optimenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-34136667291081696372013-02-08T12:24:41.482-08:002013-02-08T12:24:41.482-08:00Father,
Does this analysis apply to the Blessed Mo...Father,<br />Does this analysis apply to the Blessed Mother as well? For example when she appeared at Fatima did the children see her actually as though she came from heaven or did they merely imagine her in the same way the mystics see Christ?<br />Thanks<br />TomTomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-63986603601038260732013-02-08T10:48:57.668-08:002013-02-08T10:48:57.668-08:00It is obscure to me. Our Lord shewn Himself in His...It is obscure to me. Our Lord shewn Himself in His glorified body to Paul(like on the day of Transfiguration)?Marko Ivančičevićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04579400863718513875noreply@blogger.com