tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post4117496830157885600..comments2024-03-25T17:14:03.066-07:00Comments on The New Theological Movement: Fatima's Miracle of the Sun, the Star of Bethlehem, and the Pillar of FireFather Ryan Erlenbushhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-36483445279839969152013-10-15T04:01:29.390-07:002013-10-15T04:01:29.390-07:00Today my wife and a pilgrimage group of thirty ret...Today my wife and a pilgrimage group of thirty returned home after the October 13th anniversary. Believe me, our statue of Our Lady of Fatima and the three children has taken on a new significance in my life. To become closer to Jesus, revere Mary. Holiness is in the air in Fatima. I ope that the serenity I acquired will endure.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10070578739543456671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-15645017783459487792012-05-20T15:27:34.601-07:002012-05-20T15:27:34.601-07:00What do you think about the views of OSB Stanley J...What do you think about the views of OSB Stanley JAKI (theologian and physicist) ?<br /> In his book "God and the Sun at Fatima", 1999, he tries to explain the "miracle" by a rare natural atmospheric phenomenon. Its meteorological arguments are not at all convincing (I am a retired scientist too). <br />Finally he reduces the miracle to the fact that the meteorological event was precisely predicted for noon!<br /> About his thesis Wikipedia write: "Jaki believed that the event was natural and meteorological in nature, but that the fact the event occurred at the exact time predicted was a miracle." A very little one !<br /> I think it's rather pitiful...Exuperynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-26596130592099572962011-05-18T11:28:03.776-07:002011-05-18T11:28:03.776-07:00Perri,
No worries ... I like connecting the Sun Mi...Perri,<br />No worries ... I like connecting the Sun Miracle with Emmaus more than with Lourdes -- since, Mary also appeared at Fatima in a way that only the children saw. The Sun however was witnessed by nearly all the people who were there.<br />Peace! +Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-67157135592813225562011-05-18T11:19:01.800-07:002011-05-18T11:19:01.800-07:00Forgive me, I didn't mean hallucination. I me...Forgive me, I didn't mean hallucination. I meant when God causes people see things others don't, like Bernadette saw Mary at Lourdes and no others did. Like on the road to Emmaus, Jesus there talking with them but they didn't know it was Him. <br />perriAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-23920296375545383952011-05-17T09:32:08.718-07:002011-05-17T09:32:08.718-07:00The fact that the "miracle" happened at ...The fact that the "miracle" happened at the exact time and day that was predict, in itself is unexplanebla, Also the fact that the soaked, mudded ground was dried up in 10 minutes....it was calculaded that it would take the energy of a 10 mega ton bomb to produce the same energy to dry up the ground...faith and reason go together.JORGEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14856788786109622216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-32054277064025398622011-05-17T08:43:26.991-07:002011-05-17T08:43:26.991-07:00Mark of the V.,
I too have heard that some did not...Mark of the V.,<br />I too have heard that some did not see the miracle (even among believers). -- I mentioned this in the article.<br /><br />I suspect that demons somehow blinded certain individuals (even some believers) in order to induce some level of doubt. This would, of course, have been allowed by divine providence (I do not know why, but I trust that God has his reasons).Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-67347550761279868732011-05-17T08:41:17.926-07:002011-05-17T08:41:17.926-07:00Philip Maguire and Perri,
It is quite certain that...Philip Maguire and Perri,<br />It is quite certain that this was no mere hallucination. As Philip M. mentioned (and as I stated in the article) there are simply too many external elements of the event for it to be a purely mental phenomenon.<br /><br />This is why I would argue that angels gathered matter from the air (after the manner of a very dense cloud) and filled this with light and heat ... such that it looked like the sun.Father Ryan Erlenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557817305024750902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-20836554384782457292011-05-16T20:04:28.052-07:002011-05-16T20:04:28.052-07:00How do you explain the drying of the ground and th...How do you explain the drying of the ground and the clothes of the people if it was a mass hallucination? Was the rain then a hallucination, too?Philip Maguirenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-88653699556044330462011-05-14T15:36:36.123-07:002011-05-14T15:36:36.123-07:00God introduces the 3D video game.?
I guess miracl...God introduces the 3D video game.? <br />I guess miracles aren't rational, but I don't see why it couldn't have been sort of a mass "hallucination" phenom meant for whoever needed it. The Tower of Babel builders one day just all couldn't understand each other. Couldn't be explained. But what do I know.<br />perriAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-32871524831472648202011-05-13T13:22:51.525-07:002011-05-13T13:22:51.525-07:00I recall hearing somewhere that there were believe...I recall hearing somewhere that there were believers that did NOT see the miracle, and unbelievers that DID see.Marco da Vinhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06092410765851812842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578980753063154388.post-72671488250228251792011-05-13T13:12:44.652-07:002011-05-13T13:12:44.652-07:00So glad this article reappeared. It's given m...So glad this article reappeared. It's given me a new perspective regarding the Miracle of the Sun. I never realized I viewed this event in such a finite way. Somehow, I always thought of it as a special blessing meant specifically for those in attendance that day. Until now, I never viewed this miracle from an eternal biblical perspective.<br /><br />Thanks for making this event much more personal and reminding me that God's blessings are meant for all, for all eternity.Dismasnoreply@blogger.com